Stormfront Refugees

[fluxmaster]

Stormfront is BAAACK! Jotunn, you had better make that announcement now, before the board goes down again.

[fluxmaster]

Don Black is back. The database error has been fixed. I have two PMs from classic woman.

[Jotunn]

Thank the gods. I was all but convinced he was gone at this point.

[Phoenix]

And THANK YOU, Jotunn, for creating this forum.  What would we have done during these SF outages without it?  We would've been left completely in the dark wondering if SF would ever be back.

This has been an invaluable resource.  I hope more Canadians become aware of it and help it become what you envisioned.

[fluxmaster]

Damn, now I'm wishing we'd moved faster on the global announcement. With Don essentially MIA, this could very well be the final crash.

Are there any plans to make an announcement now that Stormfront is back up?

The time to write a last will and testament is when you are healthy and of sound mind, not when you're on your deathbed suffering from dementia.

The time to do the safety demonstration and point out the location of the lifeboats is when the ship is safely in port, not when it's already going down.

When Stormfront goes down for the last time, there will likely be no advanced warning signs. There will likely just be a database error, and then, a few days later, the site will redirect to the ADL website.

[Jotunn]

With Don and Merlin both back in action, such decisions are out of our hands, at least at the official level. We can exhort our comrades to join us here, on VNN and elsewhere. And as much as I hate Telegram, I guess I better recommend everybody get on that, as it seems to be where all the activists go these days.

Looking at all the people who have contributed large sums to Stormfront, it seems to me that we should be able to round up a team of people capable of creating a Stormfront Mark II if necessary. If/when I finally get my dang mortgage rolling, I'll have a better picture of my own finances; at that point I was/am planning to contribute more to Stormfront, but also might look into ways of beefing up this site, or even creating a new one.

[fluxmaster]

might look into ways of beefing up this site, or even creating a new one.

Would you be maintaining two websites, one a Stormfront II and one a more exclusive site? I'm not sure what the purpose of two sites would be.

[Jotunn]

might look into ways of beefing up this site, or even creating a new one.

Would you be maintaining two websites, one a Stormfront II and one a more exclusive site? I'm not sure what the purpose of two sites would be.

Well, this website is intended for the Aryan Guard specifically; the other site would be a Stormfront II, a general site for all White nationalists in the event that we do end up losing Stormfront.

[fluxmaster]

With Don and Merlin both back in action, such decisions are out of our hands, at least at the official level. We can exhort our comrades to join us here, on VNN and elsewhere.

We can still urge Merlin to make the announcement. If you agree, why don't you reply in my Lifeboat Drills thread.

[Phoenix]

We can still urge Merlin to make the announcement. If you agree, why don't you reply in my Lifeboat Drills thread.

I'm assuming that thread is for SF mods only, because I don't have permission to access it.

In response to Jotunn's remark that all the activists are on Telegram, I must disagree.  The real activists are offline and out in the real world actually getting things done.  The whiners are online, as demonstrated by the pathetic replies in the Iran war thread and elsewhere.  After reading all that, I almost wish SF had never come back.

[Jotunn]

In response to Jotunn's remark that all the activists are on Telegram, I must disagree.  The real activists are offline and out in the real world actually getting things done.  The whiners are online, as demonstrated by the pathetic replies in the Iran war thread and elsewhere.  After reading all that, I almost wish SF had never come back.

I'm doing real-world activism with Active Club, and they use telegram to communicate. I can't stand Telegram because I find the format hard to follow.

[Phoenix]

I'm doing real-world activism with Active Club, and they use telegram to communicate. 

That's an acceptable use of online resources, along with targeted messaging.  Feckless, moralistc whimpering like I've been reading the last few days is disgusting.

I can't stand Telegram because I find the format hard to follow.

Same with Gab.  One of the reasons I no longer go there.  I followed a link to VNN the other day.  That new format is horrible. Vbulletin was unquestionably the best forum software.

[fluxmaster]

I followed a link to VNN the other day.  That new format is horrible. Vbulletin was unquestionably the best forum software.

varg has created the new VNN forum on his own time and at his own expense. If you would like to contribute money to him to upgrade to Vbulletin, and continue contributing on a regular basis to maintain it, perhaps he will upgrade it. If not, then you have no standing to complain.

[Phoenix]

varg has created the new VNN forum on his own time and at his own expense. If you would like to contribute money to him to upgrade to Vbulletin, and continue contributing on a regular basis to maintain it, perhaps he will upgrade it. If not, then you have no standing to complain.

No criticism of varg or his efforts to keep VNN going was intended.  I was merely commenting on the relative quality and appearance of the new format in comparison to the old one.  As for becoming a member there, TBPH, I'm wondering how much longer I want to continue posting on SF.  The quality of contributors has fallen precipitously, and if you doubt my word, go back beyond nine-ten years and compare the forum then to what it is now.

Furthermore, my views continue to evolve (or regress, perhaps), and I find myself increasingly out-of-step with what passes for a consensus there.  But it's not my place, nor do I have any desire, to "go nuclear".  If the shoes no longer fit, buy new ones.

I am grateful for this site though.  When my time comes, if I'm able, I will drop a line here so that people will not have to wonder what became of "old Phoenix".

[South Rising]

Hey guys. How ya doin'?