Stormfront Refugees

[Captain Nemo]

It could also be that this type of really persistent attacks are the sign of an AI driven DDoS, which seems the be the trend in DDoS attacks.

Perhaps would a systematic verification of humanity for anybody accessing the Forum, or at least not already logged-in members help with the "guests" situation.

I know a forum that performs such a verification even for logged-in members, and even periodically while they are active on the forum.

[Phoenix]

IIRC, Don addressed this idea years ago.  He didn't want to make it difficult for people to browse the forum, so as to reach as many as possible.

He has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. 

Six members, 14,817 "guests" as of 4:37 am EDT.  Yeah, I'd say this is something new in terms of persistence.  The Cap'n may be on to something.

[Ole Massa]

19 members and 16089 guests. I don't think that's much of an improvement. 

[Phoenix]

As I mentioned on the SF thread devoted to this topic, I wish Don would chime in and let us know how he's managed to get the forum running so well with a steady number of around 14,000 "guests".

Then again, maybe he's wise not to tip his hand on how he's managed to do this.

Any tech savvy folks have any ideas?

[Phoenix]

Spoke too soon.  Forum timing out repeatedly now.  It will work OK for a short spell then seize up for several minutes.

[Ole Massa]

It's getting to be so slow that normal posters don't have time to post much of anything. 

[Ole Massa]

22 members and 13111 guests.

[Jotunn]

This latest trouble seems to be a sustained DDOS attack. Visitors are constantly over 10,000 for teh last several times I've been able to log in. I hope Don Black sees Fluxmaster's advice about blocking the Asian IPs that seem to predominate in the attacks.

[Phoenix]

I've been on SF for about two hours or so and I haven't been timed out or even slowed down once.  Yet there are currently 10,577 "guests" online.

So Don apparently has done something.

Let's hope it holds up.

[Ole Massa]

It's good to see it back. Hopefully, it lasts. 

[Ole Massa]

Never forget. 

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1402654/

http://arcofcc.freeservers.com/Documents/westerman.html

[Phoenix]

In the good old days those four [Bleep], and they are [Bleep], not simply negroes or black people  (There is a difference although some might disagree.), would've been the guests of honor at a necktie party.

I hope Jotunn understands my important distinction.  I use the "enword" to describe a very specific type of negro.  In the 'hood they are commonly know as "[Bleep]".

[Jotunn]

I have fleshed out the original rules somewhat, and they include an injunction against epithets:

Aryan Guard Forum Rules

•     Avoid derogatory epithets, racial and otherwise. Name-calling in general is a puerile trait, and not something I want to see proliferate on this forum.

Repeat of an earlier post:

I should like to make a few notes for any and all Stormfronters joining us on my humble forum:

Although this website is hosted in the United States of America, it is a Canada-centric forum for a Canadian pro-White organization. While the First Amendment to the American Constitution protects this forum from government censorship in America, nothing protects Canadians from the Canadian government's persecution of pro-White Canadian activists.

Thus, I would like to request that everyone be mindful of the tone of their conversation, and avoid using racial epithets, or anything that the Canadian government might deem "hateful". They already sent me to prison once in 2008 over what they called "hate speech". So I'm asking you to help me avoid a repeat of that situation.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-45.html

Hate Propaganda

Marginal note:Advocating genocide

    318 (1) Every person who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years.

    Marginal note:Definition of genocide

    (2) In this section, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,

        (a) killing members of the group; or

        (b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction.

    Marginal note:Consent

    (3) No proceeding for an offence under this section shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.

    Marginal note:Definition of identifiable group

    (4) In this section, identifiable group means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.

    R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 318 2004, c. 14, s. 1 2014, c. 31, s. 12 2017, c. 13, s. 32019, c. 25, s. 120

Previous Version

Marginal note:Public incitement of hatred

    319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of

        (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

        (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

    Marginal note:Wilful promotion of hatred

    (2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of

        (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

        (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

    Marginal note:Wilful promotion of antisemitism

    (2.1) Everyone who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes antisemitism by condoning, denying or downplaying the Holocaust

        (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

        (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

    Marginal note:Defences

    (3) No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2)

        (a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true;

        (b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text;

        (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or

        (d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada.

    Marginal note:Defences — subsection (2.1)

    (3.1) No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2.1)

        (a) if they establish that the statements communicated were true;

        (b) if, in good faith, they expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text;

        (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds they believed them to be true; or

        (d) if, in good faith, they intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of antisemitism toward Jews.

    Marginal note:Forfeiture

    (4) If a person is convicted of an offence under subsection (1), (2) or (2.1) or section 318, anything by means of or in relation to which the offence was committed, on such conviction, may, in addition to any other punishment imposed, be ordered by the presiding provincial court judge or judge to be forfeited to Her Majesty in right of the province in which that person is convicted, for disposal as the Attorney General may direct.

    Marginal note:Exemption from seizure of communication facilities

    (5) Subsections 199(6) and (7) apply, with any modifications that the circumstances require, to subsection (1), (2) or (2.1) or section 318.

    Marginal note:Consent

    (6) No proceeding for an offence under subsection (2) or (2.1) shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.

    Marginal note:Definitions

    (7) In this section,

        communicating includes communicating by telephone, broadcasting or other audible or visible means; (communiquer)

        Holocaust means the planned and deliberate state-sponsored persecution and annihilation of European Jewry by the Nazis and their collaborators from 1933 to 1945; (Holocauste)

        identifiable group has the same meaning as in section 318; (groupe identifiable)

        public place includes any place to which the public have access as of right or by invitation, express or implied; (endroit public)

        statements includes words spoken or written or recorded electronically or electro-magnetically or otherwise, and gestures, signs or other visible representations. (déclarations)

    R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 319 R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 203 2004, c. 14, s. 22022, c. 10, s. 332

Previous Version

Marginal note:Warrant of seizure

    320 (1) A judge who is satisfied by information on oath that there are reasonable grounds for believing that any publication, copies of which are kept for sale or distribution in premises within the jurisdiction of the court, is hate propaganda shall issue a warrant under his hand authorizing seizure of the copies.

    Marginal note:Summons to occupier

    (2) Within seven days of the issue of a warrant under subsection (1), the judge shall issue a summons to the occupier of the premises requiring him to appear before the court and show cause why the matter seized should not be forfeited to Her Majesty.

    Marginal note:Owner and author may appear

    (3) The owner and the author of the matter seized under subsection (1) and alleged to be hate propaganda may appear and be represented in the proceedings in order to oppose the making of an order for the forfeiture of the matter.

    Marginal note:Order of forfeiture

    (4) If the court is satisfied that the publication referred to in subsection (1) is hate propaganda, it shall make an order declaring the matter forfeited to Her Majesty in right of the province in which the proceedings take place, for disposal as the Attorney General may direct.

    Marginal note:Disposal of matter

    (5) If the court is not satisfied that the publication referred to in subsection (1) is hate propaganda, it shall order that the matter be restored to the person from whom it was seized forthwith after the time for final appeal has expired.

    Marginal note:Appeal

    (6) An appeal lies from an order made under subsection (4) or (5) by any person who appeared in the proceedings

        (a) on any ground of appeal that involves a question of law alone,

        (b) on any ground of appeal that involves a question of fact alone, or

        (c) on any ground of appeal that involves a question of mixed law and fact,

    as if it were an appeal against conviction or against a judgment or verdict of acquittal, as the case may be, on a question of law alone under Part XXI, and sections 673 to 696 apply with such modifications as the circumstances require.

    Marginal note:Consent

    (7) No proceeding under this section shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.

    Marginal note:Definitions

    ( 8 ) In this section,

        court means

            (a) in the Province of Quebec, the Court of Quebec,

            (a.1) in the Province of Ontario, the Superior Court of Justice,

            (b) in the Provinces of New Brunswick, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta, the Court of Queen's Bench,

            (c) in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, the Supreme Court, Trial Division,

            (c.1) [Repealed, 1992, c. 51, s. 36]

            (d) in the Provinces of Nova Scotia, British Columbia and Prince Edward Island, in Yukon and in the Northwest Territories, the Supreme Court, and

            (e) in Nunavut, the Nunavut Court of Justice; (tribunal)

        genocide has the same meaning as in section 318; (génocide)

        hate propaganda means any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319; (propagande haineuse)

        judge means a judge of a court. (juge)

[Phoenix]

I have fleshed out the original rules somewhat, and they include an injunction against epithets... 

Duly noted.  As an American I have a few choice words for the Canadian government.  However, in deference to the forum owner, I will keep those words to myself.

[Ole Massa]

Oh, so we can't use epithets? 

Duly noted. 

Canada has always been a great ally to have.