Stormfront Refugees

Started by Jotunn, Jan 23, 2026, 09:24 AM

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Ole Massa

Quote from: Phoenix on Apr 23, 2026, 12:30 PM
Quote from: Ole Massa on Apr 23, 2026, 12:00 PMWell, it looks like they won't be back.  :-*

I know it doesn't help you any, but it is encouraging to see the number of members online there increasing.  As of 2:25 pm EDT, there were 34.  If it gets back into the hundreds, I'll consider it a victory of sorts. 

At least the forum is working smoothly, better than it has in years.

I was thinking about all of the old posters who never returned after the 2017 debacle.  :'(  Hopefully, this new forward momentum keeps up.  :)

Ole Massa

Quote from: Ole Massa on Apr 23, 2026, 02:23 PM
Quote from: Phoenix on Apr 23, 2026, 12:30 PM
Quote from: Ole Massa on Apr 23, 2026, 12:00 PMWell, it looks like they won't be back.  :-*

I know it doesn't help you any, but it is encouraging to see the number of members online there increasing.  As of 2:25 pm EDT, there were 34.  If it gets back into the hundreds, I'll consider it a victory of sorts. 

At least the forum is working smoothly, better than it has in years.

I was thinking about all of the old posters who never returned after the 2017 debacle.  :'(  Hopefully, this new forward momentum keeps up.  :)

But they need to seriously get it to where guests can post also. Sites like Stormfront can't just survive on members alone.  :-\

Jotunn

I duuno, frankly I think Stormfront should be turned into an archive, and an entirely new forum set up to replace it.

Ole Massa

Quote from: Jotunn on Apr 24, 2026, 06:56 AMI duuno, frankly I think Stormfront should be turned into an archive, and an entirely new forum set up to replace it.

Yes, just like VNN.  :)

Jotunn

Big old database error when attempting to access Stormfront at the moment. Hopefully it's a sign that Don is tinkering around.

Phoenix

Yes, hopefully.  This latest crash just wiped out a massive PM I tried to send.  When I got the DE, I tried to save it, but I hit the wrong key and bye bye.

Ain't gonna rewrite it if/when SF comes back.  Fate has spoken.

Ole Massa

Quote from: Phoenix on Apr 24, 2026, 02:25 PMYes, hopefully.  This latest crash just wiped out a massive PM I tried to send.  When I got the DE, I tried to save it, but I hit the wrong key and bye bye.

Ain't gonna rewrite it if/when SF comes back.  Fate has spoken.

That bird just flew the coop.  :'(


Captain Nemo

Slight mistake in the previous post...

VNN as an alternative could perhaps do, if its subforums' structure was not so, how should I say... horrible...

Compared to VNN, the way Stormfront is structured represents the apex of logical organization, not to mention the totally useless statistics in subforums and threads, while post are not even numbered...

Every time I open VNN, I think: "What is that crap? Who organized it that way?".

Aaaah...

fluxmaster

Quote from: Captain Nemo on Apr 24, 2026, 11:42 PMSlight mistake in the previous post...

VNN as an alternative could perhaps do, if its subforums' structure was not so, how should I say... horrible...

Compared to VNN, the way Stormfront is structured represents the apex of logical organization, not to mention the totally useless statistics in subforums and threads, while post are not even numbered...

Every time I open VNN, I think: "What is that crap? Who organized it that way?".

Aaaah...
I think varg chose the new forum software for VNN based on price. He's paying for everything himself, so he picked what he could afford. When it was run by Alex Linder, it used the exact same forum software as Stormfront.
All these ideas...are chained to the existence of men, to who[m]...they owe their existence. Precisely in this case the preservation of these definite races and men is the precondition for the existence of these ideas. --Adolf Hitler

https://fluxworld.org/blog

Captain Nemo

Quote from: fluxmaster on Apr 25, 2026, 04:41 AMI think varg chose the new forum software for VNN based on price. He's paying for everything himself, so he picked what he could afford. When it was run by Alex Linder, it used the exact same forum software as Stormfront.
I'm not talking about the software, but about the definition and organization of the subjects of the subforums and groups of subforums:

Showcase - The Problem - The solution - General Discussion - The Struggle - The Political solution - To Do - The Personal Solution - Our Culture - Loxist Culture - Clwnage, etc...

Endless list of non-intuitive, dispersed, messy, redundant subjects, that doesn't naturally and intuitively  orient and guide the potential poster or reader towards the right subforum, if there is one at all that is the right one. So one end up aimlessly wandering around.
Instead of a streamlined, focused and ergonomic subjects structure that helps orientation inside the forum, it's exactly the opposite.

I'm sure that one can get "used to" it, but I don't want to get used to stupidity.

Captain Nemo

And should I add, the hierarchy of it all is completely messed up, in the sense that things on different hierarchical levels are put on the same level, while some that are on different levels are put on the same level.

Back to Stormfront. If one would archive it, and use a new software, it may be perhaps more resistant, but the DDoS attacks would continue on the new one, just the same.

I don't know enough to evaluate how much it would improve things.

Captain Nemo

Previous post. It should read: "while some that are on the same level are put on different levels"

The hierarchical structure of a forum is essential for its ergonomy. If one dos mess up that, the forum is messed up.

Stormfront's structure is not perfect but so much better than VNN+s

fluxmaster

QuoteI'm not talking about the software, but about the definition and organization of the subjects of the subforums and groups of subforums


I never found the organization of VNN Forum to be much different from the organization of Stormfront, except that there were fewer subforums because it is a smaller forum, but to each his own.
All these ideas...are chained to the existence of men, to who[m]...they owe their existence. Precisely in this case the preservation of these definite races and men is the precondition for the existence of these ideas. --Adolf Hitler

https://fluxworld.org/blog

Ole Massa

Quote from: Captain Nemo on Apr 25, 2026, 06:27 AMPrevious post. It should read: "while some that are on the same level are put on different levels"

The hierarchical structure of a forum is essential for its ergonomy. If one dos mess up that, the forum is messed up.

Stormfront's structure is not perfect but so much better than VNN+s

VNN is, unfortunately, quite moribund at the moment. It seems barely functioning; needing way more members. It could certainly do better with its whole setup. :-*

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